Welcome! 

We are Stephen and Lori Saux, the hosts of the If We Knew Then podcast and parents of two children. Our youngest, Liam, just happens to have Down syndrome. When Liam was born, we didn’t know very much about Down syndrome, and most of the information we did have wasn’t very hopeful, positive, or truthful. Well, this podcast was created to change that. Through honest conversations with parents, self-advocates, educators, medical professionals, and community leaders, If We Knew Then aims to share stories that break down stereotypes to help redefine what it means to live a life that includes Down syndrome. Each episode is an invitation to see beyond archaic assumptions and into the truth that our children’s lives are full of potential, love, and value. This podcast down is more than just a podcast; it’s a community where caregivers can find support and encouragement. Where the fears we carry can be met with understanding and where victories, big and small, are celebrated together. Our mission is to empower families to create change through advocacy and to remind the world that inclusion is not only possible but essential... for all of us. We believe in sharing the true experiences that often go unheard and in building a future where every person with Down syndrome writes their own story. Whether you’re a parent just starting this journey, an educator seeking insight, or an ally who wants to stand with the Down syndrome community, you belong here. This is where caregivers find connection, love fuels advocacy, and the true narrative of Down syndrome is written. In fact, in one of our recent episodes, we discussed a general hospital episode 163 that highlighted important aspects of inclusion. Every conversation can help build a more inclusive future. Thank you for joining us. Stephen and Lori